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Bear Quitugua of Shoyoroll joins me for a phone interview. We talk Gracie Mural, Shoyoroll, Jiu Jitsu, White Belts, Marcelo Garcia, Channeling Eduardo Telles, Missing Training, Sport jiu Jitsu, Sub Only tourneys, PED’s, Sales, Kurt Osiander, and Education

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This episode is sponsored by: 858 Fight Shop